Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari

Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari, graduates of BA (Hons) Sound Arts and Design, perform as their collective müllZimmer.
Roger Redgate and Emmanuel Spinelli performing at Lewisham Arthouse, London, September 2014.
Image © Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari

Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari formed a collective, müllZimmer, after meeting on the BA (Hons) Sound Arts and Design course at London College of Communication. They graduated in 2014 and have been working on a range of projects from publishing a book to exploring sound and sonic arts.

Where are you from in the world?

Sweden and Italy, respectively.

What was the best part of the Sound Arts course?

Being able to work with well-established and inspiring artists such as Peter Cusack, Cathy Lane, Angus Carlyle and David Toop and create both personal and professional relationships with them.

What are your fondest memories of LCC?

Meeting each other and being able to closely collaborate on projects throughout the course.

Jonas and Lia performing at HUT in Vienna, Austria, March 2014.
Jonas and Lia performing at HUT in Vienna, Austria, March 2014.
Image © Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari


What are you working on at the moment?

As müllZimmer, we have just released our second publication 'Less Apparent Horizon', which features a number of artists textually interpreting the potential relationships between listening, linguistics, landscape, structure and meaning. We began researching these themes more thoroughly during the latter half of the course, and have since organised and curated a number of exhibitions and events where subjects such as the above have been explored through practice-based research, both by ourselves and artists from a wide range of disciplines. We started müllZimmer as a sort of platform for interdisciplinary art, inviting other artists to interpret language, our environment and the act of listening through sculpture, film, musical performance and printed matter.

During our studies we began questioning whether it is necessary to use the medium of sound to explore the concepts around sound/sonic arts, and we were curious about making works about sound without sound. This is still something we are considering, and we are planning on deepening this research in a more academical way as opposed to merely practice-based.

Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari formed collective müllZimmer after graduating from BA (Hons) Sound Arts and Design at LCC.
Flyer for müllZimmer event Ways of Meaning at Lewisham Arthouse, September 2014.
Image © Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari


What is your favourite sound?

We have no favourite sounds per se, but think of sounds with connections to certain memories and experiences – sound is always connected to meaning, in one way or another.

Name three things you couldn't be creative without:

Ears, eyes and each other.

If you could collaborate creatively with anybody in the world who would it be?

Collaboration is a massive part of what we do already, but there is no particular artist that springs to mind. It would be a massive step forward for us to be able to collaborate with institutions or organisations in order to gain access to a larger number of venues and spaces, both in the UK and internationally.

Tell us about your future plans and ambitions:

We are continuously performing as a cello/percussion improvisation duo with the occasional guest and are planning to organise more live performances in and around London in the coming year, and hopefully also release a few cassettes and CDs. We are constantly looking at different spaces and venues for putting on exhibitions and concerts, with both old and new collaborators, to create pop-up events on a regular basis as opposed to only a handful of times per year. Furthermore we aim to begin self-publishing essays and papers exploring our areas of interest through academic research, as well as carry on publishing art books and musical releases.

Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari formed a collective, müllZimmer, after graduating from the BA (Hons) Sound Arts and Design course at London College of Communication.
müllZimmer's publication ‘Less Apparent Horizon’ brings together texts, poetry and imagery all dealing with language, landscape, structure and meaning.
Image © Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari


What drives you to succeed?

The positive feedback we have received is a great motivation to carry on. It is very satisfying to be able to bring together artists and musicians from different backgrounds and age- groups to collectively work around central themes and ideas. The act of performing in itself is also something that makes the logistical and technical part (which takes up the majority of the time) worthwhile, and is something we definitely want to continue.

What piece of advice would you give to new students?

The course gives you quite a lot of free time, so try to use that time creatively. In the first two years especially, try to attend as many guest lectures as possible as there will always be something to learn and come back to, which you will find extremely useful in the third year. Experiment with different ways of approaching and treating sound both practically and conceptually, and try to keep an open mind.

Where in London do you go when you need a little inspiration?

Listening to the call to prayer from the East London Mosque while standing outside Indo onWhitechapel Road is quite inspiring. But we generally try to leave London in order toregenerate.

Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari formed a collective, müllZimmer, after graduating from the BA (Hons) Sound Arts and Design course at London College of Communication.
Jonas and Lia recording "Zittern", a piece combining live acoustic improvisation and field recordings transmitted through prepared piezo disks placed on resonant objects.
Image © Jonas Gustafsson and Lia Mazzari